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tehta ([personal profile] tehta) wrote2013-02-06 07:28 pm

Gil-Galad: a chicken?

And now for something completely different...

Gil-Galad. I have found yet another reason to be confused regarding his parentage.
Other than this, I mean.
I guess most people around here would vote against Fingon, because of Fingon/Maedhros Christopher Tolkien said this was a mistake, and it should have been Orodreth. However, I recently re-read the Children of Hurin (for Mablung reasons, because Turin gives me a headache), and encountered this:

Then Túrin ... said to [Finduilas]: ‘I had a sister, Lalaith, or so I named her; and of her you put me in mind. But Lalaith was a child, a yellow flower in the green grass of spring; and had she lived she would now, maybe, have become dimmed with grief. But you are queenly, and as a golden tree; I would I had a sister so fair.’

‘But you are kingly,’ said she, ‘even as the lords of the people of Fingolfin; I would I had a brother so valiant.


Which is of course a little ironic, with all the mixing of sibling/sexual affection and the resulting foreshadowing, however: I would I had a brother so valiant? What about poor Ereinion?

I guess we have three options:
* Gil-Galad is not Finduilas' brother at all.
* Gil-Galad has not been born yet, during this conversation. (which, since his father is about to take the fast boat to Mandos at this point, would make him a posthumous baby. And actually, I sort of like this, hmm. It even goes well with the name "scion of kings.")
* Gil-Galad has been born, but has been sent away, and is, at this point in his life, a chicken. (I like this even more, because I like ruining noble Elves' reputations.)

Anyway, several plot-bunnies here!

[identity profile] tehta.livejournal.com 2013-02-07 03:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, I know threesomes and other weird situations are fun to write/read!

And I am sure gg was a good king. This is canon! It's just fun to imagine he started out a bit problematic as a child.

But you know, I am always a bit confused by "the feanorians/fingolfians have a bad reputation that needs rescuing". I mean, they seem pretty generally beloved, except maybe for some of the feanorian Cs. Maybe it's just my corner of fandom, but who isn't impressed by Fingon or Maedhros, even on a first Silk reading?

[identity profile] heartofoshun.livejournal.com 2013-02-07 03:47 pm (UTC)(link)
It is the same for my corner of the fandom as well. But I always get the feeling that Tolkien in rolling around in his grave complainting, "No! no! you guys got it all wrong! You're not supposed to love them so much. They did bad things! They are being justly punished by that nasty old Namo for having terrible judgment. You are supposed to feel sympathetic for Orodreth and maybe Finrod just a little." (I do like Finrod, quite a bit actually.)

[identity profile] tehta.livejournal.com 2013-02-07 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess I do not see it that way: I think Tolkien intended for us to see the elder Feanorians as classic tragic heroes, both admirable and flawed. Same for Turin. They do all get punished for their terrible judgment, but the glamour we as readers feel is there for a reason... And is echoed by many worthy characters in-story.

And orodreth is presented quite unsympathetically, I think, in the Narn.